John Aquila
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'Anointeds' Do you know any and if so what are they like ?
by Introvert 2 inwould like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .
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I've known several. The older one (about 70s) was arrogant, haughty, and condescending with everyone, he is dead now. The younger one (about 25, is easy to get along with, nice and recently married a hot Asian girl) So I guess it's just like anything else, some are crazy to the max and some are nice and easy to get alone type of people. The only difference is they want to go to heaven and rule. -
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What is the truth?
by hardtobeme inthat is what my professor of philosophy asked us last night at class.. he said that pontius pilate asked jesus that question and that it was a hard one that jesus couldn't answer.. what do you think about this question?
what is the truth?
does the gb has any truth?
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Does the GB has any truth?
Awake! 1961 Feb 22 pp.5,7,8
"But then it also speaks of a group of people preaching about the righteous kingdom of God, a war of God against all wickedness, followed by a paradise earth without death - all to be realized in the twentieth century. ...
That now-operating kingdom in heaven will, within the twentieth century, cleanse the entire earth of wickedness. ... -
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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?
by John Aquila inif you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.
during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.
a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.
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As someone pointed out on another thread, the Adventist movement has had failed dates and predictions since the 1840s. They have over 18,000,000 followers present day. Don't think for a second JWs won't be there one day.
I see a big difference though. The Adventist don't go door to door, they don't refuse blood, they don't disfellowship, they are not against Higher Education, and they are not adversarial with people concerning certain holidays and events like birthdays. That is why cults like the Adventist will continue.
But the Watchtower is against everything and everyone. "No part of the World"
The WT organization is hanging on a very thin thread of bread with birds pecking away.
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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?
by John Aquila inif you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.
during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.
a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.
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I think the situation is cyclic... I believe that the late eighties / early nineties were part of one cycle; it was the high part....But then after 94/95, the low of the cycle came; the hope and excitement started to wane.
Question, is there any foreseeable UP cycle up ahead. It seems like the WT has finally run out of steam. The only thing I see that would give them a boost is another WW3 or some nukes destroying some cities or some biological catastrophe of immense proportions.
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Perry's Miracles
by Village Idiot inthis thread is dedicated to our beloved poster of 13 years perry and his parrot.
for those who are new to jwc perry is the foremost apologist for christian fundamentalism and all its shining truths.
he previously posted a thread entitled atheist miracles.
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After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man’s eyes. 7 “Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means “Sent”). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing..Why didn’t Jesus simply say something like “You can see now”
It could have been worse.
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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?
by John Aquila inif you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.
during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.
a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.
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You heard the saying, “Why rock the boat when the sailing is great”
If you were a JW in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right Kingdom Hall and with the right people.
During that time being a JW wasn’t too bad if you were able to establish the right connections. A person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twenty’s. If you married the right girl and had a decent job then life could be pretty good. You could actually picture yourself having a great life.
Everyone in the congregation respected you, and sooner or later you would develop close ties with certain families and become close friends and together you would go camping, cookouts, movies and do all sorts of things for entertainment. In the 8o’s the weekend Kingdom hall built took off and it was a great place to associate with friends and be a part of something to talk about for years.
And to top the whole scenario with icing, you were the generation that would see the End of a Wicked System of Things.
So why rock the boat with apostate thinking?
You would hear of stories of many brothers and sisters, including a member of the Governing Body leaving the TRUTH. Who cares, if they want to die and lose out on paradise, it’s their problem.
Then came the 90s. Out of the blue the WT magazines comes out with an article that the generation of 1914 might not be the last generation.
The article was not very clear but the implications were earth shaking. “I might grow old and die”
You see life was great, and I didn’t want it to end. And I was offered a guarantee that my life would not end. But now the guarantee was becoming void. There was no need to rock the boat at first, but now the Watchtower was the one that started rocking the boat.
The Watchtower boat is now sailing on turbulent waters. Many of the old ones won’t jump because they feel they are too old to swim. But the young ones are jumping ship and swimming as fast as they can.
But that’s why many today are leaving the organization earlier than in times past. The waters are not as calm in the WT Ocean as they were in the past. And now, you can actually see the storm.
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Average Age of this Forum?
by Garrett inheyo!.
i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.
i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..
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Well, I asked a question and his answer blew me away
by Lost his mind infirst time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.
blew my mind.
i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.
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Welcome LHM
Welcome and yes its very amazing how people will just follow along never questioning a thing
JUMP!!
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Blind Guide Dog.... Erhmmmm
by CloseTheDoor ini saw this on facebook.
i'm nauseous from reading.
it's just another example of how some will go so far to make up bs and pawn it off as "truth.".
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So finally, the man followed the dog’s lead
Hello is this the Kingdom Hall?
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How can they continue the FDS "prophecy" now?
by StarTrekAngel ini know there are another 100 threads probably started on this.
i can't help but to wonder how would anyone be able to defend the existence of the fds at this point.
could anyone play devils advocate?
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I can't help but to wonder how would anyone be able to defend the existence of the FDS at this point
It’s not just about defending the FDS, but also defending “The Organization”
Two different entities that work for the same purpose and that require the same devotion and obedience. It about as crazy as the sign in the book of Revelation; where people worshiped the dragon because it gave the authority to the wild beast, and they worshiped the wild beast .
To tamper with the FDS is to tamper with the “Organization” of God. So they might not be able to defend the existence of the FDS with words, but they can defend it with the sword of execution, (disfellowshipping) which is carried out by the “executive” part of the Organization. No need to defend.